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Can we plz remove beefmonkey from the server map list.

Here is why:


[16:54:10] [+BeasT`] .captain
[16:54:11] [@GUBER] »» BeasT` is now captain for the Red Team. ««
[16:54:11] [@GUBER] »» Captains will be BeasT` HULKSMASH unless someone else steps up. Type .captain to pick your own team. ««
[16:54:15] [@GUBER] »» Team selection begins in 10 seconds. ««
[16:54:20] [+SunnY`Champ] !captain
[16:54:20] [+BeasT`] we play beefmonkey

[16:55:03] [+Hermione|Nomic] .lva
[16:55:03] [@GUBER] »» Team selection stopped because Hermione|Nomic left the iCTF pug. ««
[16:55:08] [+BeasT`] .p 7 2
[16:55:13] [+Hermione|Nomic] [10:54] <+BeasT`> we play beefmonkey
[16:55:14] [+SunnY`Champ] someone put a captain ban on BeasT`
[16:55:19] [+Elijah-`|ripWALKER] fuck u hermione
[16:55:21] [+Elijah-`|ripWALKER] 2 time
[16:55:23] [+Hermione|Nomic] [10:54] <+BeasT`> we play beefmonkey
[16:55:25] [+BeasT`] lol
[16:55:28] [+Hermione|Nomic] no tyhanks
[16:55:33] [+BeasT`] .p ictf
[16:55:33] -GUBER@#iPug- »» Only 1 more needed for the iCTF pug! ««
[16:55:34] [+SunnY`Champ] TimTim`
[16:55:37] [+rmrz] Sauron
[16:55:41] [+SunnY`Champ] put a captain ban on BeasT`
[16:55:42] [+SunnY`Champ] plz

[16:57:32] [+SunnY`Champ] !addcaptainban BeasT`
[16:57:34] [+SunnY`Champ] doit.
[16:57:36] [+rmrz] we dont say ur not, u just do to annoy ppl BeasT`
[16:57:41] [+rmrz] that is what ttn does also
[16:57:43] [@HULKSMASH] .lva
[16:57:54] [+PanterA] .j itdm
[16:57:58] [+BeasT`] y guys take this to serious
[16:58:02] [+rmrz] no
[16:58:03] [+BeasT`] this is not playing for money
[16:58:07] [+rmrz] we just dont wanna waste our time
[16:58:12] [@HULKSMASH] fuck beefmonkey
[16:58:12] [+Hermione|Nomic] exactly
[16:58:21] [+BeasT`] i like beefmonkey
[16:58:27] [+Elijah-`|ripWALKER] Hermione|Nomic go join omg
[16:58:28] [+BeasT`] nice spawns and good map flow
[16:58:45] [+Hermione|Nomic] i cant play that map elijah i just cant stand it
[16:59:04] [+Elijah-`|ripWALKER] go add and type captain
[16:59:12] [+rmrz] i freaking hate scandi, but id still play it over beefmonkey
[16:59:16] [+rmrz] thats how rubbisg beefmonkey is

i'd say replace all maps with beefmonkey.

Every time I've played BEEF-Monkey there was a lot of wawa before the map started and maybe some misplaced blame/frustration towards the map while playing it; but it always seems like by the time the map ends, everyone is having a lot of fun. We played it last night and despite the fact that most people think it isn't competitive, it required a lot of teamwork to seal the caps and return the flags. It got pretty intense at least a few times. And it can be frustrating when not everyone knows how to play it, sure, but it's a fun map, plain and simple. While it may not fit the mold most people have grown into, it's only as competitive as the players make it.

Don't like the map that someone is going to pick? Captain up so you can pick the map yourself.

/QQ.

beefmonkey is a lot funnier to play than all the actual crap maps like acrony, bleak, brokenfailmits, sprinta...

apparently i need to captain and pick beefmonkey vs sunny always

if a map that averages 20 grabs a map is on the pugging list i don't see why we can't have something on the opposite side of the spectrum.

actually i have some idea. Take a look at the first stats in the bmonkeystats jpeg, lol.

http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... ystats.jpg
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... stats1.jpg scandi

think its selective picking to prove a point? These ones are clusters taken 7 in a row on random pages.

http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... stats2.jpg scandi
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... stats3.jpg scandi
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... sword1.jpg DS-GU3
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcl ... sword2.jpg DS-GU3
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcls/dukustats1.jpg duku
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcls/dukustats2.jpg duku
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcls/dukustats3.jpg duku
http://www.imagegainer.com/images/tstcls/dukustats4.jpg dookaloo

I don't mind a grind, unless its grind after grind after grind. competition isn't strictly tediousness and simplicity.

Good map. Always fun to play.

I was drawn to this game by by all the user made content. Mods and maps providing unique and diverse gameplay. I think that time has come and gone. The community has stagnated. It's laughable how hard people cling to shit. TimTIm has delivered a quality product in newnet, but people shun it for being a little different than what they're used to. Boycott and bitch instead of adapting.



20 minutes to click. I was first on the server voting beef monkey, telling them to vote the captains pick. Ended up voting for grendel because no one but pete would vote what the blue captain wanted. That's a solid 40 minutes of grendel by the way, took 20 minutes to get everyone to vote.

Also, sponge is the most useless admin i've ever seen. This is one of many occasions where sponge does absolutely nothing to get the pug started. He'll spectate both maps but won't sub in to keep the pug alive.

I think the map pool should be bigger. There's a time and team for everything, even that wretched piece of scandi. I've made a lot of unplayable maps, but I don't consider bmonkey to be one of them. I'm certain it's the best thing i've made yet. I support its removal though. Never asked paco to put it in the league, and I asked him to take it out completely when it was announced it was the only map not eligible for playoffs. It's either playable, or not. This competitive/not competitive shit is stupid. People seem to think the definition of the word is subjective, it isn't. What they ought to say is I hate the map. I don't even care about their reasoning. The boosters moo, lol.

There was 4 new maps added this season, 3 worked quite well .. 1 didnt, I don't see that as stagnating

Beef-monkey its self.. I think most people didnt give it a fair chance because of the way you "sabotaged" it your self windigo.. yes things like the mooing bounce pads and the ridiculous name effect how people think about maps, When i first saw it i thought it looked a pretty cool base to build from with some nice innovative ideas, But i dont feel like you went in the right direction with it nor listened to peoples complaints which was its downfall imo.

I'll admit I have warmed up to Beefmonkey a little bit now. It's impossible to play seriously though.

Sounds like you should have listened to me

The map is the most capture-the-flag oriented map we have in my opinion. You have to play D as a team, you have to play O as a team. Communication is essential. It is reasonable to cap, and losing a cap doesn't mean the end of the world. Flag standoffs are actually fun and exciting, they can be played a million different ways.

I think what people really hate about it is the DiamondSword-like long distances, people hate aiming and shooting people really far.

I think the feel of the map would be dramatically improved if it was enclosed on all sides.

haven't seen you do better. I'd keep beefmonkey for sure.

Why not have 2 different map pools for dev and reg matches? Bleak/spirit/grendel etc would be fine in dev matches...

idk how outer walls would change anything except the visual style. i like how it feels like some structure floating in a vast ocean of slime

Personally I don't think it being enclosed would change the 'feel' of it - I feel like there is simply a layer too many.
Theres low (where the boots are). Mid the 'main layer'. One above mid (where you get to with the bounce pads in the middle - the height of the flags). High (the 'roof').
(I have no idea what else to call it lol).

If the only 'high' bit would be the sniper bit behind each base - so that you could not stand on the sides/middle roof and just shoot at everything - it would be possibly funnest map at ut.

Moo.