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Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:02 pm

Over the past weekend I played pugs like a mad man. Something I noticed way too often is people leaving the pug after captains are set to reset the pug. I understand if you suddenly have to go, but that's not why people were doing it. Some of the things I saw people doing were:

-Leaving/joining because they were set as captain.
-Leaving/joining because they didn't like the team or a player on said team.

So what I'm proposing is a 3 hour ban for leaving a pug after captains are set. This is enough time for that player to miss the pug, yet he/she can still come back that same day to play if he/she chooses to do so.


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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby rain » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:06 pm

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I think that 3h might be a bit much, 2hr works for me though. Means they theoretically miss two pugs - if they are busy they shouldn't be missing much.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby blackout\\ » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:18 pm

I agree, only if it's to the restrictions you're saying. However, if a player really doesn't feel like playing before teams are actually picked (by 1st pick) and leaves, I don't think there should be any penalty.

I think as far as timing should go:

1 hour for first offense.
3 hours for second offense.
24 hours and onward for people who clearly don't get the message.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby exixt » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:31 pm

Happens way too often. I agree.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby kud » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:18 pm

carry on
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby windigo » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:54 pm

Think of all the people that end up being afk and getting kicked by the bot after it captained them up. That should be a 2 hour ban? I think missing the pug is punishment enough if you take a 2 in 10 chance of missing the pug because you had to take a dump.

Dodging a really shitty nomic pug or a pug with bad blood and a bunch of DMing lamers shouldn't be a bannable offense, especially since people that'll dodge something like that are just doing so because the rules on back shooting and 3d are hard to enforce. You get people that want to win so desperately they'll suck all the fun out of a map like Duku.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:07 pm

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby RickJames » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:34 pm

Agreed with Sonic|^, and I don't think it should discriminate, either. Just code it into the bot, leaving after captains set = short (maybe one or two hour) pug ban. "Not feeling like playing" or being afk capt both deserve a pug ban.

Doesn't have to be from the chan, just a pug ban, so that if there's some special circumstance, an op can easily remove it and let the player rejoin.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Rev » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:23 pm

Yes, this is a good rule. Also, this ten minutes to click shit has GOT TO GO! It takes at most 90 seconds to boot up ut and ts. There should be a five minute click in rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sauron » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:41 pm

30m idle captain ban
1hr leaving pug after captains picked ban
Ban time increases on each offense

5min click in time from time teams are picked
No more than 2 nomics per pug
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby csnafk » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:53 pm

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Xenoscythe » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:50 pm

Although I completely agree with the ban for people that do this; is it not possible to look into the captain system for the pug?
The captains the bot chooses are extremely questionable half the time. Why doesn't it just pick the highest seeded(/previously picked) players as captains and have the teams somewhat balanced rather than it picking 2 people that barely play and don't really know anyone . Sure, people help, but logically it doesn't make sense when the more experienced players should be able to sort the teams out much fairer. Plus that way anyone that wants to captain up still can and the bot could find a suitable other captain of around equal experience.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby TimTim » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:58 pm

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hinata » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:08 pm

Rule 30: Players won't be judged equally for breaking the same rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:33 pm

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hinata » Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:34 pm

Rule 30: Players won't be judged equally for breaking the same rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hermione » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:14 am

I don't mind the .lva thing, it doesn't bother me how much times someone leaves etc. because if the pug is near getting filled, it will get filled eventually. My problem along with many others is the time it takes to get into the server, this problem constantly keeps coming up. It should not take anywhere near 10 minutes to get in the server, and click and be on ts, i actually timed how long this took me and it took 39 seconds. The past few days ive been in games where it took over 15 minutes for the pug to begin, and 5 minutes for the second match, thats 15+5+40. Thats an hour gone, and an hour is a really long time. I think the time should be reduced to 5 minutes, or at least each month reduce it gradually by 1 minute so people can adjust and get the hang of getting there on time, this method could enable the get in time to be as low as 5 mins. Still enough time, to use the bathroom, eat a snack, and take a smoke break.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:35 am

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hinata » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:17 am

Rule 30: Players won't be judged equally for breaking the same rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:25 am

So what it comes down to for you is that you want to have your cake and eat it too...and not get fat. Yeah you are way too demanding.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hinata » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:33 am

Rule 30: Players won't be judged equally for breaking the same rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Sonic|^ » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:35 am

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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby Hinata » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:47 am

Rule 30: Players won't be judged equally for breaking the same rule.
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Re: Leaving the pug after captains are set = 3h Ban

Postby MP/5 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:49 am

3 hours seems really harsh, but i like that idea cause there are way too many times that team picking takes 5-10min cause people keep leaving.
20min pug bans for leaving a pug while captains are set. that way the player will miss the pug and wont be able to re add after a min. pug bans and not channel bans in case there are special exceptions.
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