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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:55 am
by Finalz
PostThis post was deleted by Finalz on Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:07 am.
Reason: nvm w/e

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:17 am
by DevilYoua
"ok"

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:57 am
by MP/5

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:47 am
by TimTim
Moral of the story for everyone:


Again, my ban wasn't based solely on the demo, but I did see it as supporting evidence of DYA's incredibly lame playstyle that I see people whining about every time he plays. DYA, I hope this ban sinks in so that you correct this type of behavior in the future.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:51 am
by DevilYoua
Never heard someone whine about my playstyle.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:59 am
by DevilYoua
"incredibly lame playstyle"

make it a bigger joke

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:04 am
by Sonic|^
I've come to realize that some players that play this way don't know they do. Shoot THEM in the back and watch them bitch and moan.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:07 am
by DevilYoua

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:11 am
by Sonic|^

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:13 am
by TimTim

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:28 am
by DevilYoua
admins who support eachother, gj, nice front

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:29 am
by Sonic|^

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:30 am
by MP/5
moral of the story for everyone:


i haven't watched devil playing lately but there are many lame players that pug and never get punished while others get picked on.
those reputation bs and "everybody complains about you" sound a bit too familiar for me to buy it, but you keep selling it tim maybe it will make your ban seem valid.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:30 am
by DevilYoua

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:59 am
by TimTim
I will admit, I find it hilarious how often we receive complaints about lamers and how often comments are made about admins never doing anything about it. But when an admin actually does something about it, we get threads like this. And you wonder why admins are dropping like flies and why the ones that remain dread dealing with the inevitable backlash that comes with handing out a ban.

DYA knew full well that making this thread would lead to a shit show, which will almost certainly serve as a deterrent to other admins banning lamers, and in which case, the lamers have won. Perpetuate this thread and DYA wins.

I honestly barely know DYA and have no opinion of him beyond what I've seen others say. Like he said, he doesn't even know who I am, so we obviously haven't interacted enough for me to have an opinion on him. And if you look at my bans since the beginning of this year, you'd see that they are all unbiased and that they serve to improve the quality of the channel. I understand many of you within this thread don't like me so you'll of course side with DYA and try to dissect my every flaw, and I am human so I make mistakes, but banning DYA isn't one of them. I made a judgement call to improve the channel based on the feedback I had received from a number of players.

There's really nothing else to say as I've been as civil and transparent as I can possibly be on the matter, so please stop baiting me into replying to this thread.

In conclusion, to DYA and everyone else (myself included): When you play a pug, if you minimize the types of behavior that could be considered laming, there should be no reason for anyone to complain and request a ban. Playing this old game will be much more enjoyable for everyone.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:06 am
by DevilYoua
ok sorry have a nice day and cya all tonight

still think it's unfair ban

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:15 am
by InfamousRaider
Devil I think by making this thread you have really opened yourself up to future bans. Now players are going to be especially sensitive of you when backshoot and lame them because, by making this thread, you have officially labeled yourself as a "lamer" (whether it's true or not). My advice is to not get so bent out of shape by a 24hr ban, it's only 24hrs.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:16 am
by MP/5
I will admit, I find it hilarious how often admins will play the martyr card and take it personally even if they might be wrong about something.
you are not perfect and criticism is a part of the responsibility. i dont know what you are talking about admins dropping like flies (seems pretty stable group) but whatever.
if you take actions in making pugs cleaner and nicer you shouldn't be selective and should treat people equally and if that's the case you will get much less complains and actually help the situation.
you are saying you don't know devil, but you are quick to judge him due to his "reputation" and that's the main issue here.
if you don't wanna discuss anymore, np wont make you, but please keep yourself honest atleast.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:47 am
by rain

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:54 am
by TimTim

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:06 am
by DevilYoua
enough is enough close thread pls

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:21 am
by TimTim
You opened this can of worms. I'm not going to close this thread because I know what I did was for the best, and I'll defend my actions for however long is necessary. But if another admin feels the need to close this thread, that's fine by me.

Re: Undeserved ban & retarted admins

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:09 pm
by vitz^
Yeah looks about done to me, see you all in the next one :D



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