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I was recently banned for a swastika I accidentally sent out (I downloaded a smiley script ages ago which had among other things a heart, mario and a dragon). I meant to click the heart, to highlight someone (it says "I love you <nick>" under it). Was immediately banned by I believe kylewins (not 100% sure about this though), for 12 days. I pm'ed him and explained the situation, explained how it was accident and that I would remove the swastika from my smiley script right away so that it couldn't and wouldn't happen again. He asked me if I'd learned my lesson - I did - he removed my ban.

Played a pug, after which rain re-banned me, adding 2 days on top of the initial 12, for supposed 'evading'. I explained to him how I wasn't evading at all, that I was using the same irc same auth same everything as before, and that I had actually been unbanned. He pretty much ignored everything I said about that, about the supposed evading.

Now the ban has already expired, so none of this really even matters anymore, and I even understood the ban being put back, especially after I hadn't been too friendly to Chica (sorry again love) about it. I felt like 12 days was a bit harsh considering the stuff that gets said in #ipug all the time, and the stuff that gets done during pugs all the time, and that punishing me that harshly for what I explained to be an honest mistake, to me fell into the category of 'symbol politics' (if that is how you would say that in English).

Anywho, I just wanted to make a note here about how I felt Rain adding the 2 days for 'evading' - when there was 0 evading taking place whatsoever - was a bit weird. He's never made much of an effort to hide his dislike for me, and I just.. I feel like I need to post this here as some weird sort of insurance, a 'for future reference' sort of thing, if you will. This goes in line with what especially MP^5 has said: that if an admin dislikes you, you have to be especially careful about what you do or say because they will use whatever they can to ban you.

Again: I can understand the ban for the [accidental] swastika (harsh as I may find the 12 day duration), but if a fellow admin of yours unbans me (the one who placed the initial ban), how is that evading?

Just wanted to put this out there. Make a note of it.

-dg

^ROFL.

ph34r [/thread]'d this so fast its incredible

Well, there is a slight difference from a swastika and a nazi symbol. Swastikas have 4 dots in the inner sometimes and the symbol is either vertical/horizontal. Nazi symbol is diagonal. So if you sent symbol or whatever dont meet those 2 requirements then its not a swastika.

Your ban was set by Chica, not me. I texted her that you were back in the channel and she told me to ban you, so I did.

Oh and this was after you called her a stupid ungrateful bitch/cunt and hope she's dies of cancer.

Conveniently left that part out lol! Yes, Rain is the man.

lolwut

yes, the direct translation of "krijg kanker" would be "get cancer", but the word "kanker" has kind of lost its original meaning in dutch, being used mainly as a curse word. it doesn't carry the same weight that way as "cancer" would in english. You'd have to be dutch to understand, but in dutch a lot of people constantly use it to curse, or to emphasize something. like kankercomputer, i.e. "krijg kanker" should be translated as "go fuck yourself", not as "get cancer". and I even said "krijg de kanker" I believe, which means "get the cancer", direct translation doesn't even make sense because you're not actually wishing cancer on anyone, just telling them to go fuck themselves. Chica knows all this, since she knows dutch. But whatever. #dutchlessons

you're still ignoring the part about the 'evading' though. but whatever. that's all this topic was even about and you're ignoring it yet again.

Chica is the one that told me this, so I'd say she got it just fine.

no1cares /thread

Reread rains posts. You were not rebanned for evading, you were rebanned because I thought what you said was out of line. And it is, no matter how you try and explain it or blame it on the fact that the meaning is lost in translation. We do not need another page of explanations of "krijg de kanker" or the other verbal abuse hurled at me for not unbanning you cause spammed an offensive symbol that is banned in any form of use pretty much everywhere in the world.

Closing this thread.

Moral story: don't tell people to "get cancer" or use stupid ass Nazi flag scripts and you won't get (re)banned.