UT4 post-announcement reaction and analysis stream!

[frauenarZt]

For those interested, PACO, Monk, Cyborg and I will be hosting a rapid reaction on Twitch immediately following the announcement: http://twitch.tv/smantz0rZ

[InfamousRaider]

Trying really hard not to get excited about this

[m3ss]

Just remember their track record IR. Temper your expectations accordingly.

[InfamousRaider]

[Sauron]

Hoping hoping hoping for a reliable anticheat.

[frauenarZt]

It sounds to me from my direct face-to-face conversations with Epic that they're really trying hard to get it right. My problem is going to be the UT99 vs. UT2k4 communities fighting each other (and 2k4 being wrong) to get their gameplay in the new game.

[m3ss]

Looking at the input on their forums thusfar, there is already a very large contingency of 2k4 players wanting the same exaggerated scaling and floaty movement that turned most of us off to that game in the first place (particularly with respect to CTF). Many of them are pushing for ONS and vehicle CTF. Sure that's fun for casual/pub gaming, but neither are competitively viable gametypes. I'm not trying to offend the 2k4 players out there. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions and I do respect that game from a purely deathmatch perspective (and DDOM was fun too), but there's no debating which game had the larger community and more longevity. For those of us wanting CTF, there is no substitute for UT99's scaling and mechanics. I just don't see this panning out the way we want it to as it will be difficult to find any common ground or agreement between the two sides (2k4 vs. UT99). Hopefully I'm dead wrong though, but we'll have to wait and see. I think the best any of us can do is offer as much feedback and input as we can and just see what direction they take the game.

[Lineage]

2k4 is some of the worst movement a game could possibly try to have..sad

[kud]

jyb made a good point on their forum. ut99 is more accessible to new players because the movement is less complex, but still fun

[frauenarZt]

I am almost violently opposed to UT2k4 players having any say whatsoever in this and it's infuriating to think that they're even willing to suggest that adrenaline, dodge-jumping, double-jumping, thiny character models (though UT3 big models were terribad also), and generally god-awful gameplay have any place in a true Arena Shooter.

http://strawpoll.me/1657910
The fact that this has almost equal vote counts between UT99 and UT2k4 infuriates me as well.

[frauenarZt]

what the fuck is this shit, people are seriously saying 2k4 > 99 for gameplay

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthr ... UT-Classic)

[Solidsnake]

Haha i am suprised where All those 2k4 ppl come from...

[Sonic|^]

Oh boy, what a mess this will be. If they decide to cater to casuals then count me out.

[kud]

someone made a thread for "competitive players only", and then said headshots should be removed because no one ever aims for the head, and "headshots are RNG"

[Riven]

I won't be surprised if solidsnake would shoot a 20acc maximum in that new one

[DREW-TANg]

[windigo]

supah gets 8 acc and 10 frags and caps more flags than you riven

[Riven]

[m3ss]

[kud]

i think epic will look to the players who are still active on their forums after the initial hype has died down. right now there are probably a lot of temps who won't be around in a week

[Sonic|^]

[Hinata]

Lol, i'm surprised of all the ut2k4 and ut3 lovers. <3

[Hook]

I'll bet that a majority of those ut2k4 and ut3 players commenting did NOT start out with the Original UT99.
All they probably know is ut2k4 and ut3, so they want that LOL
Sad!