by Imperious » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:08 am
I do think Humpty raises a good point. I think here are the pros and cons of 1map vs 2 map:
Implementing 1map iCTF:
On the positive side, we get the following: More people playing when they otherwise couldn't, and therefore more pug activity. But there is the risk that we can divide the community as Humpty said. There will be a few people in 2iCTF not agreeing to play with the risk of DS or Beef, and there will be a few in 1iCTF trying to play. But I honestly think 1iCTF should be looked at more seriously because I think it's a superior pug mode than 2iCTF. There is actually no reason for us to be playing two maps with the same team, because no one really cares how the overall maps go. There is no emphasis on winning both maps getting any significant value, because if there was, people would want to play a tiebreaker to determine a real winner.
Imagine a world where the is only 1iCTF. How will things be different? Well, double the amounts of pugs if not more. You might say well that doesn't mean anything because double the amount of pugs but half the amount of maps is the same playtime. Sure, but you also have to understand that these teams are different each time. No one has to suffer from bad teams or someone they really dislike or so on. If map selection is random, you get a large variety of maps (but you would need to remove the match maps and only put pug-friendly maps during the offseason). If it's vote-oriented then you'll get a lot of Duku and such, undoubtedly, but we can do something to prevent it. For example, if someone picks a map, it cannot be picked for the next 5 pugs.
One disadvantage is that the 10 minutes+ it takes people to get in to a pug, you might have to go through after every map. Whereas now you endure that 10 minutes once every two maps you play. But then again, the fact that maps can essentially be resolved before the pug even starts will outweigh this. If it's randomly picked, it can be randomly picked and displayed by pugbot as people add. If it's by vote, then people can just vote when they join. Typing something like .j 1iCTF Acrony or .vote Acrony or so on.
I really do think 1iCTF should be tried for a few weeks, but I honestly also suggest that people should think about it being the main pug type. People don't like change so sometimes you have to do what's good for them and jam it down their throats like Apple likes to do (but hopefully with more openness)