PUG Quality or PUG Quantity

[Feisar]

The activity has been fantastic over the past few weeks especially! BUT;

Is the quality of the pugs going down as a result?

I've started hearing people say "look at the list, i'm staying away from that PUG" or "Too many nomic's, not joining" and i can fully understand why, whichever team has the most nomic's is likely to loose, its completely boring attacking with nomics and extremely irritating defending with a nomic when your getting shot from the side the whole game. Whats worse is when you have 2/3 nomic's it gives your team captain very little choice but to place the 2/3 Microphoned players on Defence and have the nomics run O and for a naturally offensive player who doesn't enjoy Defense, this seems a little unfair that its almost like they are receiving punishment for the nomic'er being too lazy to get/plug a mic in.

So it seems these days if you want to go O, just put nomic in your nickname, maybe thats the solution

However my solution is, have a separate pug command for nomics ".j nomicictf" orso and let them bore each other to sleep in their glorified public server

[InfamousRaider]

This has already been brought up and shot down, there was a previous 4 page thread on it. What we really need is a pro channel, but that will never happen.

[Carras]

whine.

we're playing with basically the same 150 people over and over again.
since activity is up, just pick and choose what pugs to play with people you like playing with/against. no need to create a whole new mod that no one will join.

[SJA94]

What about introducing a rule that nomics have to have at least 2 keybinds for their position and efc location.

[TimTim]

Everyone just needs to put some pressure on those without mics to either get a mic or use binds.

Peer pressure!

[KillEmAll]

I feel what your saying, but from the other end when I join a pug.
I know my comms aren't great, but I always have a mic, and my aim is terrible.
All I know to do is keep playing and keep trying.
I am always open to any advice and appreciate all the help I have gotten.

[Junkyardboy]

Sounds like a load of shit to me. Too many pwople blaming their losses on less skillful teammates and not taking ownership and stepping up their own game. I think thats why this community has very little true siiick cuuunts. Take ownership and accountability of your losses, you have no one to blame but yourself. If you lose no matter what, it's your fault. As soon as you start making excuses and putting the blame on other people, you cap the limit to how good you can get. And seeing as the majority of you think you are too good to pug woth bowow, or el Larry...it's already predetermined, you suck dick at this game and will never be a true siiick cuuuunt like myself.

Sincerely,
200frags 50acc

[Carras]

[TimTim]

[Feisar]

I'm sorry mofo, did i say Low Skill or did i say Nomic's, pretty sure i said Nomic's, you can be 1st pick with no mic and still ruin the PUG, just get a fucking Microphone, it aint hard

[Bizmonkey]

There's no excuse for no binds.

[Junkyardboy]

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHAT YOU SAID, CUZ J..Y..B SAID SO. QUIT MAKING UP EXCUSES AS TO WHY U SUCK THE DICK AND WONT JOIN THE PUG. ALL I HEAR IS "BLAH BLAH I SUCK DICK BLAH BLAH" I've destroyed...absolutely destroyed opposing teams with full mics with 0 mics on my team...wanna know WHY!?! CUZ I AIN'T A BITCH COCK LIKE U MOTHA FUCKA

[Aven]

I have been on an entire nomic team while we rolled another that had mics. MICs are overrated.

Don't confuse luxury with necessity.

That being said, I am a baddass though.

[Sauron]

No real reason to not make a rule requiring binds for nomic players

[Sunny]

jyb may be the biggest hypocrite on this planet... holy shit
p.s i do agree that there should be a rule that states players with no mics should attempt to use binds... this should also go for people that dont speak english =)

[Banko]

Binds? You crazy man. Think of all the noobs with the "old" pc's that can't apparently demo. And you want them to figure out binds? Pssh.

[Rev]

Yes, I already brought this up and I agree with it. Don't understand why so many people are against it.

[risus`]

[dR3]

I agree with the binds, no-mics are forced to join TS and using binds could be considered the same category. Difference between a pug and a public should, imo, at least be the better teamwork in pugs.

Feisar did made a good point though; people should not try to 'no-mic' so they don't have to defend.

[tigerclaw1987]

1, it's possible to D with nomic

of course if someone on TS is going fucking crazy IE

SPEAK MAN!
WHY YOU NO SPEAK MAN?
WHERE IS IT WHY NO SPEAK MAN?
OH MY GOD TALK MAN!
why you no talk man(emo)

Morpheus aside, the 2nd D needs a mic and needs to call a bit more, plus the team just needs to stay calm and use their heads and the disadvantage is minimal

2, captains should try to balance out the nomics between the two teams to prevent a stack

3, people don't miss pugs just because of nomics, but because people they don't want to play with are added like bowow, gladi or assclownfaggot for example

another pugtype for pro pug would benefit higher skilled and better CTF players, but will also alienate new and lower skilled players - since the community is touted as 'global' this type of thing will probly be the norm from now on

[Junkyardboy]

[Serenity]

[Sunny]

[tigerclaw1987]

I can bench 140kg and sing at the same time.

It's not the skill level that puts people off

bowow cherry picks religiously
gladi is hostile and doesn't play well with others
ACF adds just to chase/DM and nothing else

those are just some examples, i personally don't like playing with people who have annoying voices or 1-2 other individual people who i just don't like

I don't mind nomics at all people rely on comms too much, there are other ways to play as jyb touched on while he was molesting his ego

I just think people should try harder to learn these things rather than just complain because of nomics

-.-

[InfamousRaider]

The biggest issue is its boring as fuck to play with nomics.